Breaking Barriers and Celebrating Black Excellence with Running - Tes Marshall

Breaking Barriers and Celebrating Black Excellence with Running - Tes Marshall


Tes Sobomehin Marshall is an incredible human being who would be successful in any industry that you’d put her in. She has this innate ability to connect, and the hard work and determination to see things through. Luckily for us - she found a passion for running, and has inspired tens of thousands to get active.

From starting the Atlanta Chapter of Black Girls Run, to creating The Running Nerds, and even her own race series Run Social.

More recently - she’s spearheaded The Race - a half-marathon, 5K, and bike ride that’s focused on supporting minority owned businesses. The course normally goes through predominately black neighborhoods - although this year it is entirely virtual. It also includes a series of panel discussions to talk about social justice and change. And Tes was gracious enough to invite Coach B and me to speak during one of those discussions - which was incredible. Especially in this time of social unrest, in a city at the heart of so much tension - what Tes is doing to open the dialogue and help bring change awe-inspiring.

It’s so cool to see the evolution of Tes - from basketball coach, to runner, run club coordinator, race director, and now community leader -- and soon to be brew master.

During this discussion, we talk about:

Podcast Transcription

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Tes Marshall

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:00:00]

every aspect of the race that we could support or black owned businesses, neighborhoods and charities. We did, we run the race through the West side neighborhoods of Atlanta, which are some of the historically black neighborhoods. And it's just a beautiful event and it's it's of course welcome and open to anyone and everyone.
But when you participate in the race, you are getting an experience and black excellence, like that's the unapologetic approach to the race. And it's my passion project.

Kevin Chang: [00:00:26]

Hello and welcome to the race mob podcast. This is episode number 15, I'm Kevin entrepreneur technology and fitness nerd, and the founder of race mob.
I'm joined by master motivator to legit fitness co-chair of the Taji 100, our a certified coach USA track and field certified official the incomparable Bertrand nuisance tests. Sobo Marshall is just an incredible human being. Would be successful in any industry that you'd put her in. She has the innate ability to connect and the hard work and determination to see things through.
Luckily for us, she found her passion for running and is inspired tens of thousands to get active from starting the Atlanta chapter of black girls run to creating the running nerds and even her own race series through run social. Most recently, she spearheaded the race. A half marathon 5k and bike ride.
That's focused supporting minority owned businesses. The course normally goes through predominantly black neighborhoods. Although this year it's gone entirely virtual. It also includes a series panel discussions to talk about social justice and change, especially in this time of social unrest. And in a city at the heart of so much tension with tests is doing to open the dialogue and help bring change is on inspiring.
It's so cool to see the evolution of tests from basketball coach to runner run club, coordinator, race director, and now community leader, and soon to be brew masters as well. This episode is brought to you by race, mob, and inclusive community for fitness enthusiasts, whether you're brand new to fitness or you're veteran athletes, we all need support, motivation and accountability.
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We are so excited to welcome tests. So Boomi hidden Marshall to the race mob podcast. Welcome to the podcast.

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:03:03]

Hey guys, thanks so much for having me.

Kevin Chang: [00:03:05]

Yeah. And I think you're our first out of state guests. Oh, wow.

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:03:11]

I love being a trailblazer. So yeah,

Kevin Chang: [00:03:13]

no, there you go. It's a test. You're joining us from Atlanta.
Is that right?

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:03:18]

Atlanta, Georgia. That's correct. Awesome.

Kevin Chang: [00:03:21]

We like to ask all of our guests kind of give us some background, give us some information on how you got into running and the whole running industry. So. Take us far back as far back as you want to,

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:03:31]

you know, I've worked very hard to try to get my story down to like a two minute spiel.
So let's see where's the timer right now. Let me see how I do one this iteration, but I really want to go way back. We can go way back to, I hate and running. Becoming a runner was not something that was like the lifelong dream, anything it was. How can I avoid having to run was my, the first 34 years in my life was.
How do you avoid running, but still stay in shape and still be able to make the team, or as you kind of get older, your metabolism starts slowing down and your stamina starts slowing down a little bit. So for the first, like I said, 30, 30, 34 years of my life, I basically was just a athlete. I played basketball.
I was a women's basketball collegiate basketball coach for several years. And I mean, even as a coach, I didn't make my teams run distance, I will say, okay, you gotta, you gotta meet this time for the mile sprinting. You know, I was a big believer in quick, sprints, weight, training, strength, training, bootcamp, style workouts.
But, when I moved to Atlanta in 2010, I kind of wanted to try, you know, a new way to stay fit and stay engaged. I knew like going and playing pickup basketball and getting a workout. Wasn't going to be the way that I endured into my, my mid and late thirties. So, I started going out for little runs around the neighborhood, seeing if I could improve, you know, how long I could run without stopping.
And of course, as, as any runner knows, those first couple of runs are always, it was awful. Like you are want, like your heart's hurting your shin, you getting shin splints. You're probably wearing the wrong gear. So your, your feet are hurting. You're sweating, you're wearing cotton, everything. You're probably carrying a million things in your hands.
Like all you're doing all the wrong things. And it's not pleasant, but you know, I kind of got into the running community by joining some run clubs and actually was one of the first ambassadors for black girls run in Atlanta and helped start that organization, Atlanta and really. Becoming a leader in the organization and being involved in the running community, two races, it just kept me going.
And my first race ever was, was the Susan G Komen race for the cure here in Atlanta in 2006, then I didn't run again until the following year signed up for a 10 K. That was like a st Patrick's day themed race here in Atlanta. Ran that with a couple of friends and literally started running, never stopped running after that, like I said, joined black Rose run, be claimed a leader in that organization.
And then, uh, you know, we'll get into how I got into race directing I'm sure. But it was really just a snowball effect from there. Oh, I did good. That was two minutes.

Kevin Chang: [00:06:08]


Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:06:09]

I've got a lot of good detail, but that's the basics of it.

Kevin Chang: [00:06:13]

Talk to us black girls run and , how did you find the club and then your involvement with the club?

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:06:20]

So I always will pay homage to black girls run, um, the, uh, original founders, uh, Tony and Ashley. I always give thanks to them for just having the audacity to say black girls run because when I was going out and participating in races, I, of course, you know, you look left, you look right, you look behind you, look in front of you.
You don't really see a lot of African American representation at these events. And I was enjoying it. I was having so much fun with it and I immediately saw the impacts on not only my health, but my social life, my, you know, how I felt about my fitness. And so I was on Facebook one day and I was like, man, it'd be really cool to start a run group.
And. Some of the gods must've been listening because I saw the call to action for ambassadors for black girls run. So I was like, well, somebody already, I had the idea, let me go ahead and sign on and become an ambassador. And to tell you that, you know, I met all of my best friends to this day. Came from joining black girls run, meeting these amazing women and kind of growing our fitness journeys together.
All of my best friends today, I attribute to that first group run that I ever went to. I mean, even meeting my husband was literally because of a friend that I met through black girls run. So, and, and becoming a race director was inspired by seeing how people can go from having zero fitness. And zero interest in getting out.
Yeah. And whatever, it may be running, walking, Zoomba, whatever it may be and creating this new lifestyle for, for yourself. And then the whole social aspect of it was amazing. I mean, you meet some amazing people through running and you know, some friends that I've met from run groups and run clubs, they don't run anymore, but we're still buddies, you know, kick it and have great conversations about all types of things.

Kevin Chang: [00:08:06]

Yeah. Did black girls run already have a presence and Atlanta when you joined and what, I guess, what were the responsibilities for being an ambassador ?

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:08:13]

Yeah, so I went along with a wonderful group of women who I'm still very, very close to. To this day, we started the Atlanta chapter of black girls run.
So black girls run started off as a blog. And like I said, Tony and Ashley started that. And then they, they basically planted seeds all over the country. For small run groups to form. And so myself and there's another woman, Adrian white, we were kind of the lead ambassadors for Atlanta. And what I would do is just go around to different neighborhoods in Metro and I live in Atlanta.
So, you know, no shade to, you know, my suburb, people will hear people say that you're from Atlanta. I live in Atlanta. I have lived in some of the suburbs I am currently. And at this time, uh, when we started black girls, right, I was in Atlanta. But I say that to say, you know, we used to go around to different neighborhoods in the city and in the suburbs and our group runs, we would use Facebook of course, to create events and say, okay, we're going to be a camp Creek marketplace.
We're going to be in Decatur. We are going to be in silver comet trail. We're going to be a Marietta. And then other women started stepping up and leading group runs. So I would literally go around and just help them get that first couple of runs out. I would meet every week. I mean, I was going somewhere every day of the week.
Tuesdays and Saturdays where our large group run days. So we didn't plan. Um, neighborhood group runs on those days. Cause we want it as many women as possible to come to our Tuesday meetup, which was in Midtown Atlantic station area. And then on Saturdays, we would rotate around the city. And do longer runs as well as support races around the community.
And I mean, it grew exponentially in that first year, and this is 2011, I'm talking, I mean, exponentially and other cities were growing as well. But Atlanta was literally like the spotlight because I mean, we went from. A hundred women in the group to a thousand to 10,000, I think. I mean, if you go to the girls run Atlanta right now, there might be about 30,000 and women just in the Facebook group from over the years.
Wow. Yeah, it's amazing. So again, that was, that was how I started. And you know, again, always pay homage to that. Black girls run now is owned by JLL Alexander, who is a phenomenal leader in the community. She's taken the organization to some great levels. They've got a nonprofit arm now. And we have a great relationship.
I'm no longer a leader or involved in any kind of leadership with black girls run, but I'm, I will always be a black girl that runs, and again, just love the organization and what it does for the community.

Kevin Chang: [00:10:39]

Amazing, amazing story. Yeah. We know you a lot from running nerds and so was that directly after black girls run or.
When was the start of running yours? When did that come along?

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:10:49]

I got into running. I got really passionate about it and nerdy about it. So all of my friends, when we used to go out and do these races, we would always go back to Facebook, post your picture. And we started trending, you know, hashtag running her is after everything that we would pose this as beef and before Twitter was like, Really a big deal.
And before hashtags were actually being, we would just hashtag on Facebook just cause it was cool. Like you couldn't like click on the hashtag. I actually see a trend or we thought it was cool. I actually started running ours as a Facebook page as all great organizations start. Right. Bring it into the Facebook page.
We supposed content just about. You know, all the things that runners experience, especially new runners, beginning runners, runners of all levels. And like I mentioned, I was going out to all these races and one day I was, you know what, it'd be kind of cool to put on one of these five K's like, it just looks fun.
You know, I had that coaching background where I was used to organizing people and bringing people together. You know, I, one of the things I loved when I was a coach was camp, I used to run summer camps every year. And so I thought of, I like, you know, I have experienced, you know, putting all these things together.
So I, um, contacted about two or three race directors that I thought put on great races. And I said, Hey, can you tell me everything you know about races? I would love to put on a race they're very open with me. And, you know, coincidentally there, it was, it was white men, you know, it's a very white male dominated industry, race directing, but these guys were all great.
Again, still friends with all of them to this day. And they gave me basically open their playbook. And I put on my first five K and it was called the running nerds five K. And it was basically just, wow. Everybody come and run a five K and that forget that first year, this was 2012. Now the first year we had about 400 registrations.
I probably signed up about 150 of them. So people were just getting your registration confirmation. I mean, now when I think about 400 for the very first race that I ever put on, like there's some races that I put on that are much better organized, much better marketed that I can't even crack two 50, you know?
So, or it's basically started just as a facilitator or any community under the running nerds umbrella. I have been and able to put on not only running events, But clinics group runs. We've done training teams. What else we've done? Um, collaborations with other races and events. It started as a passion and it has grown into a, a business that facilitates the running community.
We pride ourselves on being a social forum, a resource. And also a service to the contemporary running community. So that's the basics of how it started.

Bertrand Newson: [00:13:23]

That's great. So let's see athlete accomplished basketball player coached basketball.

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:13:28]

So you accomplished basketball player,

Bertrand Newson: [00:13:31]

passion for basketball.

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:13:32]

And there you go

Bertrand Newson: [00:13:33]

with the drills with the athletes mostly.
Sprint based, not encouraging running, you got into running, running grew. Black girls run introduced to that group became an ambassador, helped grow that membership from a hundred plus to thousands and running nerds and from running nerds where now the race, I mean, The trajectory of coach tests, please share about the race and how that the cultivation of the collaborative effort.
Um, the community effort behind that as well,

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:14:03]

over, over the last eight years, you know, I've been very fortunate to develop my skills and passion as a race director. I mentioned running towards 5k, being the first event in 2012, and I haven't done a count, but we've put on over 150 running events. Races running events since that time, not only for running nerds, LLC, but also for other organizations.
So in 2017, the conversation kind of kept coming up, the black running community. We've seen all those growth and running clubs and running groups. You know, we have some great established run clubs. And run groups in the country. And you know, we'd also seen an emergence of race events that were kind of targeted towards different causes and groups like that.
VCU five K's and divine nine, five Ks. Yeah. And a racist for different causes of social justice, whatever it may be. And so the conversation started to brew about, well, why don't we put on an endurance event that we can all celebrate, just celebrate black excellence and utilize all of the resources that we have.
You know, myself as a race director, we also are a timing company. We also have connections with t-shirt vendors. Obviously sponsors. Um, my port-a-potty and fencing guy has a black owned business. So we have all these resources. And then of course the runners we wanted to put together a race that are African American and black running community could support and get just as hype about it as we get for sure.
Congo marathon, Boston marathon, New York marathon. So we put together a Kickstarter campaign in 2017. Basically put it out there. Here's the plan. Uh, we, we actually promoted it as a half marathon only when we launched the Kickstarter campaign and we asked the running community all over the world to back the raise.
And if you're familiar with Kickstarter, backer is kind of the term that they use for people who support your project or product, whatever it is that you have on Kickstarter and project was a half marathon that supported black owned businesses, neighborhoods and charities. You guys who are listening, you can't see, but our colors are red, black and green, which are the colors of the pan African flag, which represents, you know, all things, black excellence.
And, uh, we had over 750 runners, Walker supporters back the race. We hit our funding goal and all of those supporters received a code to register for the inaugural race in 2017, sorry, 2018. And, uh, we opened registration for the race on MLK day. In 2018 and the very first inaugural race was put on in 2018 and October, we had about 1400 runners and walkers from all over the country.
Participate black owned businesses as sponsors and vendors. And in just every aspect of the, Race that we could support black owned businesses, neighborhoods and charities. We did, we run the race through the West side neighborhoods of Atlanta, which are some of the historically black neighborhoods. And it's just a beautiful event.
And it's, of course welcome and open to anyone and everyone. But when you participate in the race, you are getting an experience in black excellence, that's the unapologetic approach to the race. And it's my passion project. And. You know, I've, I've said many times, you know, if I ever get out of race direct and I'll, the race is always going to be part of my portfolio of, of events or, you know, things that I do, even if I'm just the old fogy on the board or whatever, you know, it might turn into, um, the race will always be a part of my portfolio of events.
And, uh, so 2019, we had our second year, we grew to about 1700 and actually through 2020, you know, we've made the pivot to a virtual experience, as many events I've had to do, and we're still experiencing growth. And I'm extremely grateful to the community for the fact that we are growing, you know, a lot of races can't say that they're growing, we've had.
About a thousand who are registered for the race currently. And, uh, we're hopeful to get to about 1500 participating in our virtual event. And we've got about four to 500 runners who deferred to 2021. So very excited about it. And it's an experience that is tough to duplicate virtually, but we are going to do a fantastic job of bringing the race 20, 20 to the world.
And. Honestly, and I love to hear how you guys feel this. You know, I think these, uh, pivots to virtual for a lot of these bigger traditional events, it presents a really cool opportunity for you to let people experience the event, even if they can't be there. How have you guys found, you know, these pivots, particularly for the traditional races, like your, you know, the big SIRS and the New York marathon and Boston, they're coming up with their virtual.
What are your thoughts on these. Pivots.

Bertrand Newson: [00:18:49]

And I think you're exactly right. Um, it gives race directors an option, and we understand, um, in the past where race directors were maybe not fans of virtual races. Totally get that. But what it's doing right now, it's the ability to still keep people engaged. Great way to keep the messaging and the branding out there as well.
And people need a slice of normalcy in the midst of the pandemic. People, spirits had been down some out of work, some have been directly impacted by the pandemic itself. It's really touched home for them. So. People need a slice of normalcy. So anything that is encouraging active, outdoors, physical fitness, certainly while respecting social distancing and keeping the event live and vibrant because a lot of these race organizers are not large.
Like New York are not large like Chicago. So being able to still have a connection and making sure that the people that are signing up is able to sustain the organization, moving into the future. This model has been very sustainable. And we, and again, we understand where some people may not be fans of virtual racing, but it's also evolved to the point where there's a high level of accountability.
It's no longer just the honor system where participants can upload their results. In some cases, there's leaderboards, which for the runner, that's looking for that competitive edge, it's getting more traction with them. So I think it's changed our running community moving forward. I think most race organizers is going to offer that virtual option.
When we can get back to library somebody, but being able to expand your audience, where people here in California can experience the race in 20, 21 October. And if not able to get out to Atlanta is a good thing. More importantly, experience at this year, sign up for the race 2020.

Kevin Chang: [00:20:31]

I think so doing a couple of other things.
One is breaking down some of the location barriers, whereas, you know, people might have only stayed in their local area. You know, now people are probably looking at the race from all over the country, if not all over the world where they might not have been looking at that before. I think another thing that we've heard from race directors is some innovation not only on, you know, just putting on a virtual event for the physical events, but some are now mapping GPS coordinates from one location to another.
So. We've heard of open course racing. We've also heard some race directors say that now they can focus a little bit more time on storytelling and telling the history behind the event and get people really involved with why this event came about. Can they tell that entire story now that they have a little bit more time to make it a little bit more personal?
Those are some of the interesting things that we've seen innovation wise. Now that we were forced to move to virtual, whereas before we might not have been

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:21:30]

a really good point, you made about, you know, being able to share the history. Because someone just asked me yesterday, they were just on the general website and they were like, Hey, I'm interested in this phrase, but I'd like to know more about this.
And in my mind, I'm like, have you not seen the 5 million things that we've put out there? But I was like, you know what, here's an opportunity for me to share the history of the race. And I wrote like a, probably a too long of a post. And response. And then we have actually a short film that we curated about the inaugural race.
And I posted that and he was like, thanks so much for sharing. So I was like, you know, this year ride this, there is a great opportunity to share your why of, of a lot of these races. It's not just, Hey, we just want you guys to sign up so we can send you a metal on a tee shirt and. So you did our race. So,

Kevin Chang: [00:22:14]

take us back a little bit. You said that you've put on 150 events since that initial running nerds 5k. So give us a little bit of the evolution of running nerds. The events that you started putting on and I guess maybe early stories, what might've gone wrong or were there any issues in those early days?

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:22:33]

Well, I think the cool thing about running nerds and when I look back on all the different things we've done, it's running arts has always been, Hmm. It'd be kind of fun to do this. So I just put it together and see if people show up, like one of my favorite breweries in town, they opened a second location.
So I was like, let's do a run from the old brewery too. The new brewery throw an event on Facebook. We'll show up. We run from one brewery to the next, you know, I started a run club that meets. In West Midtown, West Midtown, Atlanta to support one of the races that we were putting on and that we are, we're going on year eight of every Wednesday meeting at the same location.
And there's been probably about six of us that have been there since the beginning, but we've seen runners come and go. People move into the neighborhood. The neighborhood is changing and developing. So like things like that or putting any other training team, I signed up for the rock and roll new Orleans marathon one year.
And I was like, you know what? Let's put together a training team and we'll all train together. And we had about 20 people and we would meet up on the weekends and I put together, I think we did like a meet and greet at one of the local new Orleans cuisine restaurants and had just topics about how to train for a marathon.
And some people were doing the half marathon put together training plans. I got my coaching certification so that I could, you know, intelligently and confidently, you know, give people advice about running because as you guys probably know, when you start running, people start asking you a million questions about everything from, you know, shoes and things like that.
I worked for a short time at one of the local running specialty stores. Some of the things that we've done, I forget about until Facebook reminds me and Facebook memories. So it's really just been a passion. It took me a really long time to acknowledge what I do as a career and acknowledge running or as, as a business, because it was like, this can't really be what I do for a living, but I actually want, I went to my first, um, I know if you guys are familiar with running USA, it's one of the.
Governing organizations of race directing, or sorry, race the road, race industry, I should say. And I went to my first conference for running USA in 2017. And that was like the first time that I really like legitimize. Okay. Race director is a profession that is other people who have the same quirky issues up at four in the morning, on a Saturday.
Yeah. Then, you know, setting up cones in the middle of the night and answering. Passionate emo call it passionate runner emails. And then in the midst of all of it, my own personal running journey, you know, I love to do a marathon every year. So I'd go through at least 18 weeks of every year where it's the buildup and the taper and the, the beauty of running a marathon.
You know, I love five. I love local five K's I love Peachtree road race. One of my favorite races here in Atlanta. I love half marathons. I love traveling to races. And then I've gotten into learning more about the elite running field. So I listen to a lot of podcasts and getting to meet great folks like you across the nation.
So, I mean, I can't, can't even truly express how, like, just becoming a runner has opened up every aspect of my life. And I'm so grateful for it being, you know, a legit profession and a legit lifestyle too, you know,

Bertrand Newson: [00:25:45]

sharing some of those. The unique and community based events that you put together and how Facebook's reminding you of some of those occasions as Kevin referenced earlier, what are some of those behind the scenes stories where we're only race directors know where the expectation was?
One thing, those wildcards, those curve balls, those permit related age station related port-a-potty

Kevin Chang: [00:26:08]


Bertrand Newson: [00:26:09]

You know, all those things, we didn't get enough bibs the time, you know, all metals.

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:26:14]

How long has it?
Well, I will give you one is on top of my mind. Cause I was going through pictures today to try to find a decent photo of me on race day for article that. I'm working on. And a picture came up from last year is we have a race called the Monday night brewery in West side 10. It's a 10 miler, 10 K in December running on the roads that no one should be running on.
Cause it's all just like semi trucks and people who are in a hurry to get somewhere, but we run it. But the point of the is it ends at a brewery. So enough said there. Right. But anyway, so this is year seven, I believe of that particular event. So of course we got it down to a science. Not quite. So I get a call 10 minutes before the race is to take off and we have to shut down a road so that the runners can take off.
And then that road needs to open up immediately because it's a busy road. I get a call from one of my volunteers at one of the crucial out and back section. She's like test up. I don't see any cones out here. I'm like, what? So I call my car and truck and I say, guys, where are the cones on such as that road?
Oh, shoot, hold on. We'll call you right back. So they had forgot to cone crucial section of the course. So I have two of my assistants. Here's a little race director tip, always have two people. Well, who are just there to just do anything you need them to do on race day, you are going to need them. So I sent both of them.
I was like, I need you to go to such and such intersection. Here's some, I always keep a little of cones with me. Take these cones. And if you got to call him the road, Yukon the road, cause the rice has taken off on time. I don't care. So I literally had to sin my runners off. And of course, you know, I have my police officers out there too.
So it wasn't, I wasn't sending them into oncoming traffic, but yeah, I sent them out there really not knowing if that section, it was about two miles into the race was actually cone, but thankfully I got a call as soon as the race takes off, I got a call from my two assistants. We got it covered. The columns are there.
We're good. We're going to stay here and make sure everything, but it's how you about stress. So there's a picture on our event page of just me on the phone. And then they're like on one of them's on the phone, the other, one's just sitting there like, okay, what are we going to do? And yeah, that, that's not the idea, but I mean, there are millions, sorry, we hadn't raised that had to be canceled for snow.
So you really learn about, you know, runners and some of the things that they will say when you have to cancel a race, what else. Right. We've had the rain, the rainy races. We started our timing company about three years ago. So those first couple of events, my assistant race director became our lead timer.
And she literally learned the art of timing from webinars and tutorials. Like she wasn't a timer. And again, timing is a very like old white man dominated field. So here we are, you know, two black women out here, you know, learning the tricks of the trade and just having a good time with it. But the first couple of events, we had one event where did the time equipment just digging work by?
People were taken off, no reads were coming through. So, I mean, they fixed it eventually, but it was a stressful day. Cause you know how, you know how we are about our finished time. It's gotta be accurate written. You can have it on your watch or your phone, but you need to see it come through. Yeah. I could go on for days about those.
Fun stories. But you know, the best stories though, are the people who are doing their first race ever, or your race becomes a tradition for them. And that's the reason why we keep doing it because people, you know, they, they look forward to our events. Our events are all small community oriented events. We don't have a 10,000, 20,000 person event.
And I don't know. If that's even something that I want, I really love the small race event. I love the fact that when I'm doing the award ceremony, I know 90% of the people's names that I'm calling up just from over the years of running events and putting on events.

Kevin Chang: [00:30:02]

That's fantastic. Talk to us, I guess, a little bit more about, um, your response to the pandemic this year.
You said that one year you had to cancel because of snowstorm harm and. People weren't too happy. So, um, what happened this year? And when did you learn about the pandemic and

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:30:18]

what was that like? We had a really interesting timeline here in Atlanta, because as you probably know, we hosted the Olympic trials.
The last weekend of February was really first week in March, last week in February and Berlin, you were here for the Publix. Marathon half marathon at five K, which was the following day. I mean that weekend was the most Epic running weekend. If you were here, it was, it was beautiful. We, no one was thinking about talking about coronavirus.
COVID-19. Washing our hands, hand sanitizing. Like those were just not things that we were talking about. We were neck and neck across, you know, the six, seven mile stretch of the Olympic trials course. We were at the finish line, nine cheering everybody on for Publix. The next one today, we were at our favorite restaurant and bars, brunching and eating and just having a good time.
So that was the first weekend in March. The second weekend in March, we started to hear these rumblings. Of, Hey, you know, my want to be more cognizant of large gatherings. And I remember that weekend, I actually went to a festival and you know, my husband, he was probably on, on it a little bit earlier and I wasn't, he was like, Oh, you think we should be going as fast.
I was like, festivals are going on all over the world. Where are you talking in this festival? It was the brunch festival. We were missing a brunch festival. Right. So we went to the brunch festival. But, I mean, even at that point you were kind of like looking at your drink, like, okay. Make sure you know, okay.
I'm gonna drink it, but, okay. So then the third weekend was wearing the wheels fell off all over the world. So this was the weekend leading into, I think March 14, 15. So that's when. March madness was canceled. NBA spending the season, all the kids got sent home. All the corporations were like, stay at home, work from home.
And we were actually scheduled to have our first planning meeting of the year for the race that Thursday. And it started this day, started off guys. We're on, we're going to meet guys. We're going to meet, but if you're not comfortable, don't come to about five o'clock that day. I was like, guys, we're just not going to meet.
Let me figure out what's going on in the world. And then our first event of the year was scheduled for March 30th or 29th or 30th, our first five K of the year I'm running, or, um, the top golf 5k, which top golf, you guys have top golf on the way

Kevin Chang: [00:32:34]

we don't here, but

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:32:35]

yeah, you familiar with it, but it's a big stadium venue.
So I didn't have to make a decision immediately about top golf, but yeah, it became clear very quickly that we weren't going to be able to host. Uh, 5k at that venue. So long story short, we basically put all of our events on hold. We had starting in March. We pretty much have an event every month. So everything started getting either canceled or postponed or pivoted to virtual.
I was very, very fortunate that, like I said, top golf 5k was the first event. We didn't have another event planned until the end of April and then may and June. So I had some time to kind of see what was going to happen in the world. And. Communicate with our race participants, what we were going to do. We didn't have a ton of people already registered.
So the pivot process was easier. And we're also very fortunate that, you know, we're pretty self sufficient when it comes to our waste production. So we don't, we don't have a warehouse that we're playing rent on. I mean, my garage is my warehouse pretty much. I don't have employees that we're counting on Valerie's and Sharon's.
And all that and 401ks and, and we also don't have debts. So I am extremely grateful for the status of running nerds as a business. So we're, we're not losing money by not putting on events, but, you know, unfortunately we're not making revenue this year because we're not able to put on our live events. So I think you guys are in the same position in California, but we have not had a live event since the weekend of March 14th.
And there there's a moratorium on permits. So for the foreseeable future, there won't be any running events in the city of Atlanta. So it's been interesting. And my race participants have, I've been awesome really. I mean, we've had maybe 10 to 15% of people who have requested refunds for our various events that we've either pivoted or had to cancel.
And the rest are either participating in what virtual options we offer or. Letting their registration fees roll over to 2021 when we're in clear time. So there's a lot of brace directors that don't have that, that situation. So I'm grateful.

Kevin Chang: [00:34:43]

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Bertrand Newson: [00:35:03]

We know that the politics and Atlanta are, are different than other parts of your state. Let's say at least other races, libraries is going on in other parts of Georgia.

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:35:12]

So for the most part, the state of Georgia, you're going to see some trail races.
Some race companies are putting on these kind of small race by appointment events. The Atlanta track club actually hosted three events in June, sorry, in July and August. That were raised by appointment events, but those are all outside of the city of Atlanta. Yeah. Private property. So they were able to secure private property and extremely small.
So for those of you who are listeners don't know, Atlanta track club is the organization that puts on the Peachtree road race, which is traditionally a 60,000 person event on the 4th of July. That event. We'll be virtual this year and taking place on Thanksgiving, but even their events, I went out and volunteered for one of their race by appointment event.
And I think there were maybe 200 participants out there. Um, so you know, these scaled back private property running on in state parks or things like that, we were saying some of those, but as far as road races on streets, I am not aware of anything that's going on like that in our state.

Bertrand Newson: [00:36:15]

And how has the running community in the city, um, navigated through some of the civil tensions, you know, the people, voices who wanted to be heard and you know, how that impacted the running community in your area?

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:36:28]

I think probably similar to the national scope, you know, we definitely had a very strong, um, presence of. Heightened awareness for racial and social injustice here in Atlanta, uh, protests. Um, particularly since we did have one of the heightened incidents right here and Atlanta with Rashard Brooks's murder and it was some real high tension times around here.
For a while, of course, with the Mart Arbery situation, which is kind of, um, the East side of Georgia. But you know, that really struck home with a lot of runners because I mean, even I run through suburban areas all the time I had my neighborhood itself was a suburban area. And so that really, um, you know, struck a chord with a lot of people.
But what I will say is, and I think this can be echoed around the nation. It's not going to stop people. You know, I think if anything, we're being cautious, but also saying, you know what, we're not going to let you know, hate or fear, stop us from living and being, and, and, and fighting for what we feel is right.
Just to, you know, fight for humanity. I mean, that's really the thing, but definitely raising awareness of conversations and, and being more. Conscious of your surroundings. I think that that has happened all over the country, you know, not just here in Atlanta,

Bertrand Newson: [00:37:46]

all set and thank you for elaborating. So being the leader of a running group running is a common denominator for so many people.
The diversity in running groups is unique and that it allows conversations to take place in some circles that it may not be otherwise. So. And be people just to be able to respect somebody else's opinion and to have a real conversation about somebody else's experience.

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:38:09]

Yeah. And even like around just, you know, I, the politicizing around coronavirus and mass square and all that, it really, it saddens me.
I know people that I've had conversations and touched and have relationships with that have. Had the Corona virus and have died from the coronavirus. And I actually just had a conversation, one of my really good running friends this morning about, you know, I asked her, I said, okay, you've went through this.
You've recovered. What is your, or your 100% honest take on, do we need to be concerned about this Corona virus? Or is it just no big deal? If you get it, you're going to get over it and move forward. And she said a lot, but the big takeaway I took from it was, you know, we were just still so uncertain about what this virus.
Will do to us longterm. So she's recovered. She doesn't feel 100%, you know, she's a runner, she's a marathoner. So she knows what it's like to be able to go out, walk, run, and feel good afterwards. And that's not right feeling that she's getting after running or walking or trying to get back to that. And so she, she would just hope that.
No people would at least think about the uncertainty and how you're really rolling the dice. If you could get this disease, because it could kill someone, someone could completely recover, but you know, is it worth it to try to figure out which end of the spectrum you're going to be on based on how you feel about wearing a mask or social distancing or, you know, you know, opening your business.
And I feel for business owners, I absolutely feel for business owners like. Again, I'm grateful that my business isn't really impacted by shutdowns and things of that nature, but I can't imagine the heart and soul that you put into a brick and mortar business. And being told that you got to shut it down indefinitely for something that we can't really even see.
You know? So this is just a time that we all just have to, you know, hold hands, get together. Theoretically, we hold hands. Of course, get together, stay together and support each other as much as possible.

Bertrand Newson: [00:40:09]

Well say to me, this virus has hit home for so many people and it's hit home within your fitness circle and, and ours as well.
I mean, um, we've had team members who have lost grandparents. Do you remember in the last month and a half who lost her mother? And, uh, Kevin knows this. You guys may have seen my social media posts over the last 24 to 48 hours. I've had a friend of, uh, 28 years. Uh, we worked together in the hospitality business.
He lost his life to. The virus, uh, two days ago. And unfortunately he lost his mother three weeks before that. And his mother-in-law so three people that family, his wife as kids, I just cannot imagine the amount of pain that they're going through. Um, losing him as a friend. I mean, he was. Uh, he was, uh, had a lot of life to live in a good man.
So, you know, everyone just needs to be mindful and respect, you know, do what you're supposed to do and be concerned more than just about yourself. Especially when you put yourself out in front of other people, you don't wash your hands, you know, face coverings, et cetera, et cetera, respect social distancing.
If you don't feel well, stay home. If you don't feel well, do not come out to a run. You can support virtually, or you can just rest being responsible that way and using common sense and not let politics. Supersede health and safety.

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:41:26]


Kevin Chang: [00:41:28]

navigated these times as a running club leader and a HANA as a restrictor.
What kind of conversations are you having with your running club or the people within the running club?

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:41:37]

Yeah. Great question. I'm gonna throw that question right back on you guys too, because I think the network of running leaders is extremely important during this time, because a lot of us. Need to kind of lean on each other and support each other.
And one example, I'll give him that I'm probably too many running Facebook, and I really loved seeing how leaders of the groups, whether it be an organized group or literally just a Facebook group, that's a collaboration of runners. You know how people talk about, you know, how to safely continue to run or walk and talking about the importance that we just talked about of, you know, taking this time to take a step back and brace the idea of solo running.
Like I've become a solo runner. I love solo running. I love my long runs to myself. However, the beauty and the comradery of group running, you know, that's something that we wanted to get back to. As soon as we were able. So for my own personal, um, our Wednesday night run club, we did take a three month hiatus pretty much from March through June.
And we started meeting up again mid June and basically invited people that were comfortable to come out. Um, we, we meet outdoors anyway in front of a Lou limit store and right in West Midtown, Atlanta, uh, we asked everybody to please wear a mask while we're gathering. And then once we take off maintain as much social distance as we can, and we naturally end up distancing.
Anyway, there's usually about 20 or 30 of us. I usually head up the room for the group. We got some Speedy's that take off and then. When we're finished, we don't, you know, hang out and chat and run and hug and high five, like we normally do. So everybody pretty much just goes home. So we've been doing that for about two months now and it's been great.
I look forward to it every week, um, in terms of our, our, um, races, as I mentioned, you know, all of our events have either been pivoted to a virtual experience or canceled for 2020. The race will, as we talked about is pivoted to a virtual and we're going all out for this virtual experience and every bell and whistle virtual expo.
We're going to be partnering with the app called charge running, which is an awesome app, by the way, if I get a chance to talk a little bit more about charge, but charge allows you to run with it. It's other people virtually through their app, and we're going to be hosting the race half marathon and 5k on that app in October.
So just trying to give people, you know, reasons to stay active, connected, and positive. And that's we call that ACP actually started a, um, Instagram live show. I did for two months in April and may where I go on every Monday and it was run social Mondays, and I'd have guests on there. And I had a studio built in my house with the backdrop and everything.
It was great. So, um, you know, anything we can do to keep people active, connected, and positive, and through these times, Another thing that, um, I'm really excited that I've been doing is I've been keeping a national call and I'll invite you guys if you want to participate in our September call, but we have a national call of group run leaders that we just get together every month.
Um, majority of them are from black running groups and organizations. And we just get together and just talk about our respect cities and what's going on. So we just had to call yesterday. Um, we have representatives from Baltimore, New York, Chicago, Houston, Carolinas, Charlotte, Durham, Raleigh, Philadelphia.
So that has been great. I look forward to that call so much cause I get a chance to learn what other, you know, what other cities and run group leaders are doing. So, um, please remind me to, yeah, I invite you guys. I would love for y'all to sit in on our September call. And, you know, let us know what's going on on the West coast, absolutely honored

Kevin Chang: [00:45:10]

anything that you can share from that call any nuggets or anything that is you're planning on

Bertrand Newson: [00:45:16]


Kevin Chang: [00:45:17]

any initiatives or anything

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:45:19]

part of the race weekend.
Every year we do a speaker series and that speaker series has always included a panel of running. Group leaders. And so basically these calls, I've just been kind of like actually the race started as a panel of running community leaders that were talking about, Hey, we should put on a race. So the panel during the actual race is kind of an extension of that talk.
So these calls became an extension of that extension. So no, the cool thing every year. Month we get together and you got some characters that are leading or leading and are running by. So it's always funny listening, but the biggest takeaway is that everybody is excited to get back to meeting and traveling.
There was a long conversation about how all the races that people were sad that they can't travel to like the whole like plain packing your bags in a new city, on foot. The tourist aspect of, of being a runner. And, you know, seeing each other, you know, although we live in a different cities, a lot of us see each other at these bigger events and the race has kind of been our annual now our new annual family reunion, so to speak.
So that's the biggest takeaway is that we're, we're really excited that we have the opportunity to communicate, but we cannot wait to get back together in person. I'm glad that zoom is doing so well, but they should expect to see a big plummet. I don't want to see another
thing is over you move all your stock from zoom to Delta, immediately.

Kevin Chang: [00:46:48]

Talk to us about the, the charge app. Um, I'm not super familiar with it. So what are, yeah. What are you guys doing with it?

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:46:54]

Another thing that I've been doing as much as I can. And thank you guys for letting me continue this, anyone that wants to talk interview podcasts, forums, I'm all about it. You know, just my way of kind of outreach into the running community.
And so I was invited to be on this panel of Atlanta area, race directors and fitness professionals that were still doing this was early April, still anything to keep people active, connected, and positive. And one of the panelists was a woman named Betsy and she is a coach. And. I'm in leadership with the charge running apps.
So she was talking about the app and I'm listening. Like that sounds really cool. So basically you, you download the app and in the app you can do group runs. Um, you can do training runs and then they also have races and they've really picked up on the, the races. They have club races or, uh, races that are just for the app subscribers, and then they also can host.
Racist through the app where people who aren't necessarily members of the app can join the app for that particular race. So I actually hosted a half marathon on the right app in July called the running nerd summer heat, half marathon. And we had about 150 runners that did it half marathon in July, right over the country.
It was super fun. So when you're in app, you have a coach. Playing music talking to you. They can see you on their digital screen. You can also see everyone else who is running. Um, it's got a Lee alive leader board and it's got a chat room. I love it. I use, uh, charge two or three times a week just for my own personal runs.
They have live runs and they have on demand runs. The coaches are all awesome. They're very encouraging. You know, you pick up who your favorite coaches are based on kind of like their voice and the music that they play. So you start to kind of, it's just like going to a gym, you know, you have the instructor that you really like because of their vibe.
So you kinda kind of figured that out. And then the races are really cool. Like I've done three half marathons and the app. Um, I've done. Um, Jeff Galloway has been doing a series. I've gotten a chance to run and listen to Jeff Galloway, give tips the whole time I'm running. And, um, Dave McGilvery, just hosted a 5k.
You know, it's his birthday, this past weekend, he's the Boston marathon race director. And so, uh, jump into his and we got to listen to Dave, talk about whatever you want to talk about for 30 minutes, the race will be hosted in the charge app. All of our registered runners will get a link. To join the app on race morning and run their 13.1 or their 5k.
It's going to be super special. And you're going to feel like you're running with all your friends, because you know, we have an opportunity to kind of shout out people. It'll give us opportunity to shout out our sponsors. So imagine like when you go to the start line, you know how you got the announcer, that announcer is going to be with you the whole time you're running and playing all like the music that you want to hear.
During the run. So, yeah, it's really cool. It's a tough thing to explain. So I tried to explain it, but a highlight, I heard you guys to try, they do a two week free trial. Um, you can download it from, um, the race website, um, and just try it out for a couple of weeks and see what you think.

Bertrand Newson: [00:49:55]

Thank you excited to check that out.
We'll make sure to include that in the show notes as well.

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:50:00]

I did want to turn that question back on you guys about the group runs and you know, things that you have been doing and seeing what are some of the trends on your side of the coast, your side of the world. I should say with wanting to get out and run in groups and races and things like that.
What's the vibe there.

Bertrand Newson: [00:50:18]

There's a desire. People still want to get out granted when we, for two legit fitness and. Pulled back on group runs mid, late March. And we had a weekly track workout on Wednesday, say mornings that was put on a hiatus. We went virtual. So I would give the workout. People would do that remotely in their local areas and their local track and small groups and by themselves.
And then. We really look to the local authorities on when they would allow some of the larger groups to convene. So it was a minimum of 10, then it went to up to 60. So when we got that green light, we started to slowly get back into smaller groups of people getting together. We got back to the track workouts, but with some prerequisites face mask, bring hand sanitizer.
Mandatory, social distancing, et cetera, et cetera. And there are some people who just fill or apps, their own reasons that they still would prefer or to run alone or in groups that they know or family members versus spreading back out in the group format. But yeah, there's a, still a demand, you know, I have not seen.
Trails this active. And you're seeing people looking for, again, some slice of normalcy getting out and about, and we want them to pick up good social distancing habits. And there's always going to be, you know, when you have cyclist and newbie, walkers, newbie, hikers, newbie. Runners all convening in the same space.
There's going to be some indirect tensions from time to time. But I think as people start to learn the road and trail and cycling etiquette, we'll all be better off in the future, but just the level of safety has to be respected. You can't get to a point where. Temperatures are warmer. You know, we've been at this for a while.
Cabin fever. Maybe I can, you know, maybe I can go out without a mask, you know, maybe, um, I can wear, not wear the mask. Maybe if that person, it doesn't step off to the side of the trail when I'm there wearing a mask, maybe it's okay. Maybe I can go ahead and use that water fountain without using hand sanitizer.
No time out. Take a deep breath. Look at the news. There are people that are still being affected every single day. So do your part. If everyone just does their part, it can help get us out of this situation, much quicker pre vaccine, but there's, you know, people still are out and active. And I think as run leaders, we have to be able to set the tone.
And, um, recently shared something on the group page with the RCA run group protocols during the pandemic.

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:52:37]

Yes, that was really good when they put that out. You got my vote for president.
And I mean, again, not to get too into politics, but it's like what you just said. Sounds like such great common sense. It makes so much sense. It just.

Bertrand Newson: [00:52:50]

People don't get it though. Sometimes. Like, what the hell?

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:52:54]

What are you doing? Like there was nothing mean or putting anyone against anyone with what you said.
It just makes sense. Like it's, I am the, one of the, like I hate mask. I think they're just silly. I purposely have not bought every mess that I have was given to me. Like I have not. I refuse to, I'm not making the race mask. I'm not, I mean, those shades and organizations. But I'm going to wear my mask because I don't know what's going on and they don't know what's going on.
And until we know what's going on a water fountain. No, thank you. No

Kevin Chang: [00:53:29]

good. Yeah.

Bertrand Newson: [00:53:31]


Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:53:31]

But anyway, so I will say I don't, I don't run with my math. So I do run without ms, but I always have with me. And like you said, if you're, you know, unavoidable social distance, I do have the ability to cover my, my face, but yeah, it's too hot in Atlanta to be running around in the mask.
They, the hospitals do not want, you know, runners passing out from heat exhaustion. On material what'd you got there

Bertrand Newson: [00:53:57]

pet sweats. I do good work with ultra bands. I mean masker one thing, but the ultra band in it, there's been some studies say how effective they are, but just go around your neck. You can multi-use and a more popular.
Finding a minute. It's got some from a vendor head sweats. I'll give them a shout out, but sold out quick and not trying to make a profit, just passing them on to the peeps that, that want them. So a head sweats does great work.

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:54:22]

We're going to be launching for the race weekend in our store. You, you called them.
Um, we call them race. What did we call? There's so many names for them. The Gaithers. So you're talking about the little tube things that you can put around your mouth, Gators, Gators. Yeah. So that's another word for him. So many words, buffs race wraps fabric that goes over your mouth and face. So we are going to be releasing the race version of those, because those are multi-functional.
You can put them on your head, you can use them as headbands. I love those things. So one last time question for you guys. And this is one of my favorite things to hear. Outside of running. What has the pandemic kind of forced you or pushed you towards learning or becoming more passionate about anything, any new hobbies or interests that you've developed during this time?

Bertrand Newson: [00:55:09]

Turn to the tables, the tables,

Kevin Chang: [00:55:11]

this right. Like I don't, I don't know if we'd be podcasting, if it weren't for the pandemic.

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:55:16]

Oh, the podcast was birthed out of the pandemic. Okay.

Bertrand Newson: [00:55:19]

Yeah, maybe the partnership. I mean, we're probably, we're destined to work together on some capacity. We talked about it in the past, but I mean, Hey.

Kevin Chang: [00:55:27]

Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, both of us had a little bit more time on our hands and I think this has been something that we've wanted to do for awhile, but now we had the motivation to get something off the ground to kickstart something. How about yourself? What, what besides running?

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:55:43]

Yeah, so, um, we were talking about this a little bit before we started recording, but.
I've always been a big fan of craft beer and the whole brewery industry. And I put on three races with, um, a local brewery here called Monday night brewing. And so one of the things that I, I started to notice the reason why I love it breweries and craft beer, it's just the community that it can bring.
Um, and build. So we have a great craft brewery scene here in Atlanta. And so one day I was like, you know what, it'd be kind of cool to start going down the road of brewery ownership. And I made a mistake and posted that statement on Facebook and that opened up like a million doors and possibilities.
Like people thought I was going to open up a brewery the next week, but. I contacted one of my good friends in the industry and said, Hey, you know, I really want to start researching this whole concept of brewery ownership. What do you want me to do? And he was like, start home brewing and buy this book and watch these documentaries and listen to these podcasts.
So I've been kind of deep diving into the whole brewery industry I got. My first home brew is, is due to, uh, come to market in my house. On a Saturday. So I'm excited about that. And, um, I'm going to be interning with Monday night brewing for the month of September and October, just learning all of the aspects of the brewery industry.
So that's going to be how I kind of use this, this down time for racing. So. You have to

Kevin Chang: [00:57:10]

go halfway, huh?

Bertrand Newson: [00:57:11]

Slam dunk, slam dunking all over us right now, hanging on the rim. Take that coach beat that Kevin

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:57:19]

downloaded my share of podcast during this time too. I've got my phone is full of five guests, so it's crazy.

Kevin Chang: [00:57:25]

And you were talking to us a little bit before we went on air about kind of a cool initiative that some breweries are doing. Can you give our listeners a little peek into that initiative?

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:57:36]

The black is beautiful project, which was started by a brewery in San Antonio, Texas called weathered souls. And they basically put it out there to the brewing industry to produce a stout beer.
Um, they created a recipe and breweries good, you know, use that exact recipe or just kind of play off that recipe. They created a label called black is beautiful and they were hopeful that maybe a couple hundred breweries would participate in producing this beer and donating the funds. There it is donating the funds to, um, organizations that worked for police reform and social justice.
Over a thousand breweries all over the world. All 50 States about 21 countries are participating in the black is beautiful project and there are a thousand iterations of this beautiful stout beer we have about 27 breweries here in Georgia that are participated in. I have, I think, four of them. And we will be partnering with Monday night brewing again, a lot of shout outs, Monday night brewing to create the race.
Collaboration of black is beautiful and that will be released in October. So I am super excited for that, but you know, the Bertrams version is a what'd you say? 11,

Bertrand Newson: [00:58:45]


Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:58:46]

That is not what they call sessionable, but we have a brewery here in Atlanta called scofflaw that created a 5% and it's like iced coffee. It's basically just like very smooth, easy drinking. So if you decide to pick up a few versions of black cars, beautiful, try to get a range so that you can experience a difference.
But I mean, I've seen some breweries and tell me, have you seen any other ones I've seen some breweries that have done like. But Nella, there was a blueberry one. There's like a, a corn bread and Fuze. Like they are getting a lot of them are coffee, stout, chocolate milks out. I think ours, um, for the race collaboration with Monday night is going to be a bourbon barrel aged milk stout.

Bertrand Newson: [00:59:28]

This one here, cocoa nibs, and vanilla bean.

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:59:32]

Oh, that sounds really good. So they're, they're probably able to hide a little bit of that. APV with the cocoa nibs and vanilla bean. So yeah, you can only drink one of those today. Don't don't try to

Kevin Chang: [00:59:42]

try to

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [00:59:43]

go too hard with those

Bertrand Newson: [00:59:44]

a run tomorrow morning, if the air quality holds up, because we have, you know, we're dealing with a lot of fires here in California.
So a lot of the runs have been. Either postpone workouts and people are working out indoors. So that run may be put on hiatus, but at some point, these ice cold, uh, black is beautiful. Beers need to be opened up and consumed. So I'm waiting for the right occasion,

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [01:00:03]

certainly prayers to you guys, their prayers, to the folks, dealing with the hurricanes.
I mean, do we need anything else to go on in this world right now?

Kevin Chang: [01:00:11]

Awesome. Well, thank you so much for joining us on the podcast. Where can people find you online? We'll we'll have links to the race obviously, but where else can they find tests?

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [01:00:21]

Another thing that the pandemic has forced is for me to actually be pretty decent at social media. So

Bertrand Newson: [01:00:27]

understatement crushing it.
You are Kevin and I, one of the reasons I hate the social media for running nerds and the race is off the charts. So.

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [01:00:38]

No. Thank you. Thank you. I definitely have a great mentors in the social media space. So JT being one of them, I love JT social media, and you know, he definitely inspired me to create a presence that people can actually, you know, support because if you roll back to pre March, most of my, my social media, which is like random, like once a month, but anyway, so you can follow me personally at, at running nerds and it's all one word running nerds.
On Instagram. And then we also have run social Atlanta, which is my local race series, run social Atlanta. And then the race is the race underscore you see on Instagram, and then you can find all those on Facebook. And if you guys want to put this in the show notes, my personal Facebook is Timmy Lola Sobo and Marshall, which is my full.
Name and I'm of iffy about accepting new friends. But if you send me a message saying that you heard me on of the podcast and you wanna be my friend, I might accept you, but you gotta, you gotta be careful on your personal account, but feel free to follow. And, um, I, I'm very responsive to all of our social media.
So. Thank you all so much for, you know, let me talk a little bit about what's going on here in Atlanta

Bertrand Newson: [01:01:48]

coach. One question before we, we, uh, with the final rep, how does he get the nickname tests?

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [01:01:52]

Great question. So I'm again, my full name is Timmy Lola Sobo Meaghan Marshall, formerly Timmy, Lola. So Boomi and or.
Some folks, some of my family members pronounce it, Chabot main. It's a Nigerian name. So when I went to college, I went to university of Virginia. I did not want to continue the legacy of people stumbling over my name. So I was like, I need to come up with a nickname for myself. So my initials Ts you say it real fast STS?
Yes. It sounds like tests. So that's how I came up with tests. And that's why it is spelled with one N E S. Okay. Yup.

Bertrand Newson: [01:02:23]

Yup. Got it. Got it.

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [01:02:24]

That's the story. And I'll actually have a large contingency of sublimate hands in the Bay area that about four cousins. And I have a, uh, a name sake, my cousin, my little cousin, Timmy, Lola, her let her name is Tammy Lola.
So we'll meet, she has a different middle name, but wow. If you run into anybody with that last name, they are my cousin.

Bertrand Newson: [01:02:46]

And one more question, since you said little and youth namesake, if you were to give yourself a younger version of yourself, some advice, you know, whether it be run club, race, director, entrepreneur, what would that advice be?

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [01:03:00]

Is this one of those? If I would know what I know now, questions, or just advice in general. Okay. I can answer that two different ways.

Bertrand Newson: [01:03:07]

What, you know, now what you know now, if you do it, then

Tes Sobomehin Marshall: [01:03:10]

invest in all of your equipment or in the first year. So you don't have to keep buying roofing, re buying things every year, but that's like one of those, like hindsight things.
But no. Um, you know, honestly, I would just tell myself I've been really fortunate guys. I, I really can't say that I've had long stretches of time where I felt like hopeless or struggle. You know, I have great family members. I have great friends. So I would just tell myself that, you know, when I do, when you do come up against those times, Just know that you have a foundation that is going to support you and get you through.
So take the, the opportunity to learn from those struggles, because you're going to get to the other side. Like, and yeah, I mean, that's timely advice for right now. Things might look rough and tough and maybe even a little hopeless for some people, but we will get to the other side and do the best that you possibly can to take something from the struggle.
Thank you very much. So guys, thank you so much for your support of course, of the race, and I'll just let you you're out right now. We don't typically have discounts for the race because we want to make sure that we give as much of the race registration to our charitable impact fund partners. But I want to encourage the West coast to really get involved in the race.
And I know how runners love a discount. So for the month of September, anyone. For, um, uh, any of your listeners that are listening, they can use code race. Mob is spelled out altogether for 10% off the race registration fee. And I didn't mention earlier too, that we do have a bike ride also this year. So run walk cycle.
You're going to have from October 1st, all the way through to October 11th, to complete your event and report your time. And really you have. Whenever you want to complete it is virtual. So you finish it whenever you finish it. But you know, if you want to, um, make sure you earn that and shirt and metal that you're going to get in the mail.
Um, that's the timeframe that we have a lot for the race. So a code race mob, w we're we are found on run sign up and you can also find the direct link to registration, WW dot the race. You see.com. So. Get in there. Let's get Kelly up to what'd you say you want triple digits?

Bertrand Newson: [01:05:20]

Triple. Absolutely. Come on West coast, come on.
Bay area. Show him how we do it.

Kevin Chang: [01:05:24]

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